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Here I would love to share with you our travels and adventures as international mushroom consultants. MEMOIRS about husband Pieter Vedder, who was a SCIENTIFIC PIONEER in Commercial Mushroom Cultivation Education. His practical handbook is in 9 languages and is called the MUSHROOM BIBLE: https://mariettesbacktobasics.blogspot.com/2020/08/modern-mushroom-growing-2020-harvesting.html
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Friday, July 10, 2020

Pieter Carrying Wreath with G.J.A. Van Soest at Memorial of Friends Pierre Heynen, Gérard Kinet etc., Belgium

December 27, was a rainy and miserable day for attending the funeral and memorial for the 1958 Tragedy in Zichen-Zussen-Bolder in Belgium...
Meanwhile I've come across more photos via the ISMS's (International Society for Mushroom Science) from their RESOURCES - PUBLICATIONS - CHAMPIGNONCULTUUR (the Dutch Mushroom Culture/Growing magazine that Pieter wrote big parts for, at the time). You can enter the actual magazine via link below, within blog post - but it is in Dutch...
Husband Pieter is 2nd from Left, carrying the Memorial Wreath together with his colleague G.J.A. Van Soest... (Photo Steegs)
Those were Pieter's first students as he conducted courses in Maastricht for them, at a Grandcafé, see more in the post via link before. Those were the years that Pieter did ride his motor bike...
Hoping that Gérard Kinet's two children, and Pierre Heynen's family might find this info and some final photos of their Dad.
Click link below for going to my then not complete post, with added photos and info:



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Monday, July 6, 2020

My Reply to Growing Pains by Geoff Ganney in The Mushroom Journal

Geoff Ganney wrote in his diary on April 5 that he was cleaning up among the pickers' knives. Well, what's so exciting about picking knives. First, we identified 8 different types, some long, others short, very thin, thicker but all blunt. Furthermore, some had plastic grips, other wooden grips and some had no grip at all. They were all terribly dirty. Some were bent or twisted, none were straight. Result; differently cut mushrooms.

Has anyone ever studied the best weight, length, blade shape, handle material and degree of sharpness of the knife, the most important tool a picker has?
My hand with the world's BEST mushroom picking knife...
Geoff Ganney's question in the 1989-5 The Mushroom Journal click link from ISMS Pdf.
Sure, I did write him a letter, stating that most harvesters will be far better with the knife than with the pen; so I would speak for MANY!
The Mushroom Journal of August 1989 Number 200 with my reply printed...
My reply:
14th July
Mushrooms disappeared, gave me time to study a most thought-provoking letter from Mariet Vedder which now follows:
Dear Geoff
After reading your 'Growing Pains' in the May issue of the Mushroom Journal, I would like to respond to what you wrote about your experience of April the 5th; your philosophy about a picker's knife.
Indeed, I have studied the most important tool a mushroom picker has, perhaps a little closer than most of your readers.
First of all, I would like to explain why I'm so interested in what you wrote about harvesting in general and the cheap, but nevertheless very important, tool; the knife.
At the age of 14, I was already picking mushrooms at the small farm of my friend's parents in Horst, the Netherlands, to help them out.
Since then I have spent a big part of my life in mushroom houses; picking mushrooms myself, training pickers on farms all over the globe and introducing new harvesting techniques and methods to improve the efficiency and also the quality of the product. We all know that mushroom growing is not that easy and more and more developing into a science. To improve the business we organize con-
ferences and courses, we write books and magazines and sometimes we have open house to show off some good first breaks. There even is a kind of mushroom doctor; Geoff Ganney, specialized in Growing headaches.
Amazing for me is that at these conferences or in these books or magazines, famous experts are talking or writing about compost, supplementing, cac'ing, deep scratching and the use of chlorine and the ideal CO₂ concentration and hybrids and virus and marketing, but so far... I have always missed harvesting.
It seems that when we get to this, in my opinion, most delicate and important part of the mushroom business, almost everybody is backing off; having no interest.
Do the owners/managers of a mushroom farm forget that the pickers are eating away almost 60-70% of the labour-pie?
Don't they realize that a harvester can influence the quality of the product more than any other growing factor?
We send our growers - area managers, compost guys etc. to courses and meetings, sometimes even overseas.
Do we have any serious training program for the biggest work force, the harvesters?
Are the mushroom growers dozing off?
They mechanized and computerized to the fullest, but most of them overlooked in my opinion, one of the most important (and also expensive) areas. 
It seems to be below the level of the designer-owner of a farm to discuss with the pickers how to create the best harvesting conditions.
We do the utmost to get the mushrooms on the beds and very little to get them off properly.
May I offer your readers a suggestion Geoff...?
The best way to recognize the daily problems in the harvesting area is; let the boss/manager pick mushrooms himself for half a day or more. Then he will figure out that indeed it is very unpleasant to constantly get a wet shoulder from that dripping plastic air duct, or a stiff neck as the result of the high air velocity in the aisle.
He never before realized that it isn't that much fun to sit on your knees on a catwalk for hours to collect the white gold. 
That indeed the distance between the two beds was that little and that lowest bed so close to the floor. 
How frustrating it can be to pick just 12 kg an hour with hard work, because of mushrooms with a piece weight of 160 in a kilogram and most of them almost open already, and somebody is asking if that room ever will be finished.
The boss then will figure out that there is actually more light in his toilet than in the growing rooms where 15 or 24 people are working for so many hours.
A king-size bed maybe wonderful during night time but for picking the mushrooms at the center of a bed, one should know that the maximum width should not extend 140 - 145 cm.
By picking himself he too will realize how unpleasant and itchy it is to have compost in your hair and neck because of poor construction of the sideboards or sloppy filling.
Perhaps he never before realized that there are that many spots in the room with puddles of water on the floor. Not good for controlling blotch but very unpleasant to stay in too!
He will figure out that this stepladder is not as handy as he thought it was; that the space on the platform of the lorry is indeed very limited and that climbing on the wooden trays goes far beyond his physical capability. 
After that half day picking he perhaps will understand much better why many harvesters are constantly looking for other jobs.
Sorry Geoff, I almost forgot to tell you more about the knife. In my opinion and I've quite a bit of experience, the best mushroom picker's knife is made by Diogenes - Werk - Herder & Sohn
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Phone: (0212) 7 70 71 - 73 Telex No. 8514 492 dio
Order No. 4602 for mushroom knife
Don't think the above information is still valid... But click here for thisBEST Champignon plukmesje - Mushroom picking knife 
If the mushroom growers in the more developed countries want to continue their business in the future, they'll have to pay more attention and have to spend quite a bit of money to improve the harvesting situation. Although the Dutch developed a system for mechanized harvesting, we all now that for a high quality, fresh market product, we still need human hands. For as little as approximately two German Marks we at least can put a good picker's knife in those hands.
Mariet Vedder - Van den Munckhof
The Mushroom Journal June 1990 No. 210 with link to ISMS Pdf even though they cut off part on the left when scanning...
When we get to harvesting everyone backs off
We make no apologies for repeating this most interesting letter from MARIET VEDDER, first published by Geoff Ganney in Journal 200, August 1989.
The Mushroom Journal October 1998 Number 585
Growing Pains in Retrospect 9
THE LAST OF GEOFF GANNEY'S GROWING PAINS
After almost twenty-five years, I suppose we can't complain that Geoff Ganney has decided to call it a day as far as Growing Pains is concerned. Over the years, we have enjoyed being educated by one of the industry's best-known elder statesmen as he shared with us the trials and tribulations of mushroom growing, and sometimes the joys, in a diary prepared with the expressive phrases, wry comments and dry wit for which he is known. The column certainly generated a great deal of comment and debate over the years and will be missed; readers often told us it was the first page they turned to. Look out for a new feature in the coming months. This month, Peter Flegg looks back over the history of Geoff Ganney's Growing Pains. ~Trudy Johnston, Editor in Chief
Growing Pains in Retrospect
By Peter Flegg
From time to time Geoff passed on to his readers the benefit of detailed comment and advice from well-known mushroom personalities. Among those with whom he shared this column have been Sylvia Hensby who took issue with him on the effect of green mould. Mariet Vedder who wrote him a detailed letter on the skills of picking mushrooms and John Fletcher who wrote about evaporation.
To drive his points home he would frequently deliver short, snappy sayings...

Indeed, Geoff Ganney was an excellent writer and sadly nobody could adequately fill this void!

Hope some of you enjoyed reading this!

My next post: 
Techniques for Harvesting Quality Mushrooms  & Gratitude to Mushrooms Canada | more information and links to videos from both of us, husband Pieter about Mushroom Growing and me about Harvesting at Technology Transfer Seminar
modern mushroom growing 2020 harvesting | post about our newest publication with my harvest section

Thursday, July 2, 2020

Open-Air Mushroom Growing in South Sweden

Showing you that after the Mushroom Growing inside Marl Caves, other methods got tried.
This picture taken in the South of Sweden, long time ago in 1959 during an excursion of the ISMS Congress that Pieter did attend in Copenhagen, Denmark. 
This method of cultivation is now obsolete.
AMAZING yield in the open air at that time.
Photo is part of husband Pieter's publication of Modern Mushroom Growing
~
The first mushroom mycelium was probably found in places like meadows and paths, leading to mills, where there was plenty of horse manure, places where mushrooms were growing freely. 
If a bed was grown through with mycelium, there was sufficient 'spawn' available for the next growing cycle.
With this home-made 'spawn' many diseases were, of course, carried over and it was therefore a big improvement when French botanist, educator, mycologist, scientist Louis Matruchot succeeded in 1894 in growing 'pure cultures' from tissue and spores of mushrooms. 
Also American Constantine J. Alexopoulos did a lot of work.

Mushrooms will be FOREVER fascinating!

Monday, May 25, 2020

Visiting Dutch Mushroom Grower in Marl Cave

Being the Founder/Principal of the Practical Training College, my then boss, now husband Pieter, did take all of us in September of 1970 to the ONLY existing Mushroom Growing Marl Cave.
That was in the deep south of The Netherlands, in Maastricht the capital city of my Province Limburg.
Here we are inside the Marl Cave, of Mount Saint Peter, studying the mushrooms on those ridge beds ― on the floor!
Just imagine, what a toilfully labor it must have been for growing mushrooms inside a cave...
To the left, only her leg is visible, was a 2nd cousin, then 2nd from the left in the red lacquer coat its me... My sister Diny is standing with her face towards the ridge beds. Pieter is next to her and writing on the wall is my late 2nd cousin... Some other colleagues and the gentleman to the right in the back was our guide. 
Writing on the wall was easy, as this limestone is rather soft!
This is also inside Mount Saint Peter, from an old post card that Pieter saved from long time ago.
Those ridge beds on the floor were covered with ground up marl.
Photo by Lahaye, from P. J.C. Vedder's Moderne Champignonteelt, his Dutch publication.
After WWII some people started growing mushrooms in caves in the southern part of The Netherland; a way of growing at that time already quite common in France...
Also in Mount Saint Peter from one of P.J.C. Vedder's publications...
Hill beds in St. Peter's Mountain. The soil is not always flat and the dams to prevent the flow away of water sprayed, through the paths are extra needed. Cream mushrooms. (Photo "The South")
This photo is from the No. 4 - SEPTEMBER 1957 Champignon-cultuur, the Dutch mushroom magazine (click link for full Pdf from ISMS)
This photo is from the No. 4 - SEPTEMBER 1957 Champignon-cultuur, the Dutch mushroom magazine
Mr. Geijtenbeek studies the first tests with new culture technique inside the caves (Photo ENCI)
Fa. Gebr. Pluymackers, Maastricht
This is HISTORY now!
But grateful for having seen this with my own eyes, so did my colleagues after we'd visited first the ENCI (Eerste Nederlandse Cement Industrie or First Dutch Cement Industry) from 1926.
An interesting video about ENCI: bedrijfsfilm 2016 (in Dutch but still good to see how it all gets done). In July of 2018 they stopped with further digging, they still produce cement but haul it from elsewhere.


Related links:
1978 - P.J.C. Vedder's Modern Mushroom Growing Book Published in English | previous post by me
{My Teacher, Mentor, BOSS & Husband over 44+ Years} | previous post by me
{Angels engraved on lucky calendar coin of 1969} | previous post by me

Tuesday, May 5, 2020

Artistic Chromolythographs on 23 Kt Gold Leaf from Friend Gerard Derks in Italy

While living in Cornuda, Italy, we invited our friends Gerard and Pauline Derks over for dinner at our apartment.
Gerard gifted us with a set of three Artistic Chromolythographs made by hand press on 23 Kt Gold Leaf.
Such precious work in miniature... all with artist signature as well.
Living in Italy, you know that you are in a world with medieval buildings all around you...
Such medieval arches you can find everywhere...
With each having a certificate on its back about the chromolythography made with hand press on 23kt gold leaf from Jewellery store Pasa
Gold Engraving in Italy by Gioielleria Pasa, Via Piave, 14 32026 Lentiai - Borgo Valbelluna (BL) click through to their FB Page as they still do exist! Look at their masterwork here...
LOVE the Italian skills!
We read in the 1995-5 English Mushroom Journal, courtesy of Gerard Derks about the passing of our long time friend Bruno Sartor and co-founder of Funghi del Montello, the company we worked for in Italy. Click the uploaded ISMS link.
Bruno and his brother Valentino Sartor used to be wood traders.
Through contacts in Canada, they got to see how they constructed mushroom houses from wooden planks. That's how they too started in the mushroom business.
Valentino Sartor established in 1977 ITALSPAWN ITALIA, for use on their own mushroom plants, also selling it all over Europe as well as to Korea and Israel.
The Mushroom Journal 1979-1 click link to ISMS pdf. Gerard Derks is shown to the left.
The International Society for Mushroom Science (ISMS) has now uploaded most of the issues.
In The Mushroom Journal 1984-2 the MGA conference lecture by Gerard Derks has been published.
Maybe his sons would love to read it... And another article about Mushrooms in Mexico by Gerard Derks I found in the 1993-8 just click. 
~
Gerard Derks also became te recipient of the prestigious Sinden Award from the English MGA (Mushroom Growers Association) in 1991. Well deserved!
The Funghi del Montello mushroom operation published in 1992-1 The Mushroom Journal click to ISMS Pdf.
The Sinden Lecture Part 1 by Gerard Derks
Published by ISMS in Pdf format 1992-5 The Mushroom Journal click link
The Sinden Lecture Part 2 by Gerard Derks
Published by ISMS in Pdf format 1992-6 The Mushroom Journal click link
Once again, courtesy of Gerard Derks, a TRUE GENTLEMAN!
Uploaded now by ISMS in 2001-4 The Mushroom Journal
~
Sadly in 2002, when we visited Italy with our best friends from Dublin, Georgia, we made a stop at the hospital in Feltre, in the Province Belluno on June 6, for seeing Gerard one last time... he died of pancreatic cancer.
2003-12 The Mushroom Journal published this ten months after his death; click for ISMS uploaded link.
~
Gerard was a very active man in the Mushroom Industry, son of the school principal of Overasselt, The Netherlands

We did rightfully mention him in this post and in our book on page 219, which you find an image of in link below:

Related link:
Visiting A.G. Linfield Mushroom Compost Facility in England | Showing Mr. Jan Thielen from the above obituary, courtesy of Gerard Derks

Monday, April 27, 2020

Tzvetana Rantcheva from Bulgaria and Chubritsa Spice

From several ISMS Congresses, Pieter got to know lots of international scientists.
It was always hardest for scientists from behind the iron curtain, from the communist countries that is... to travel internationally.
Pictured here is Tzvetana Rantcheva from Bulgaria, with Pieter to the left and to the right of her is Vitkov, who also visited us at the Mushroom farm of Fungi del Montello in Italy.
Here, Pieter is to the left and next to him is Stefan Lissitzov and Vitkov from Bulgaria.
Both photos are from August 29, 1989 and the Berlin Wall had not yet come down... marking the end of the Communist era for Eastern Europe.
Tzvetana Rantcheva was one of the scientists that lectured at the 1969 ISMS Congress in Hamburg and Pieter knows her for a long time.
International Society of Mushroom Science
Pieter did receive one of her 1971 publications, for adding to his library...
Dear Mr. Vedder
Many kind regards to all colleagues in your station. I hope this booklet will enrich your library.
Your Bulgarian friend and colleague,
Rantcheva
Due to Tzvetana Rantcheva's many restrictions for living and working in a Communist country as Bulgaria was, Pieter helped co-author her book...
She did mail it to us from Bulgaria, and we received it in June of 1986...
To Petter Vedder
with respect and gratitude
April, 1986         Rantcheva
Sofia, Bulgaria
 (well, writing in cyrillic and managing the Roman alphabet as well, is quite challenging!)
Their paper quality was the poorest one...
Sadly so, but she meticulously gave credit to all of Pieter's photos!
Contrary to most others, regardless of all their privileges of living in the free and modern world, that only stole photos and big parts of text, without ever giving due credit. 
They think that plagiarism went out of the window?!
Both of us felt humbled and touched by being able to help a scientist from Communist Bulgaria out...

While visiting us at work in Italy, Tvetana Rantcheva gifted us a hand made wooden box, filled with special mixed spices and herbs from Bulgaria.
Not very large but I've kept it all those years with lots of sentiment... empty for years now.
Finally last year we both got to visit her country, Bulgaria, even though not her city of Sofia.
Queen of Bulgarian spices: summer savoury (chubritsa) click link
It was special receiving her Bulgarian Christmas cards...
Sadly we lost contact since our life in Italy.

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Friday, April 3, 2020

My Most Awkward Moments as Last Minute Substitute Interpreter at ISMS Congress

During a sight viewing afternoon tour, the wife of the I.S.M.S. Congress organizer in Braunschweig, Germany told me that the  Professional Interpreter could not be present... She said, but you can help us out! Sure I am fluent in German but...
What was I thinking when saying yes to translate the speech from Madam Burgomaster into English, Jacques Delmas would translate my English into French... both of us standing behind Madam Burgomaster at the ancient City Hall.
Here I am, to the right and Pieter center AFTER the disaster... YES!
Without any script and an obvious inexperienced Madam Burgomaster, that went on for about half a page. My train of thoughts, trying to memorize + translate could not keep up with that.
Back then, I did not have the courage for stepping forward and tapping that lady on her shoulder and saying: 'Please no more than a couple of sentences at a time, otherwise I loose track!'
And all that, in front af some 500 International participants of the ISMS Congress... wanting to just vanish!
International Society of Mushroom Science
That was on Monday, September 21, 1987.
Husband Pieter with Walter Huhnke whom I mentioned in my previous post: 1967 Pieter at Max Planck Society Germany's Most Successful Research Organization
Friday evening, September 24, felt more relaxed... nothing to interpret here!
Just enjoying a formal Banquet with the other participants without any lectures or speeches.

But I survived!

{My Own Design of Brass Mushrooms} | previous post about my sales at the ISMS Congress
{XIIth ISMS Braunschweig, Germany Plate of 1987} | previous post by me

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